1st two sessions – no password

Our Cover and Why We Are Afraid of Death

Our Cover:  “Much of our belief about death comes from our cover. You know the jacket we are wearing, call our body, our personality, our minds. It effects what we believe even though it has no apparent relationship to reality.  Reality is not what We Think reality is, for that is completely cause and effect. And we believe it.  And we miss the real point. People seem to need to create stories that fit in with their own individual belief systems which as we said is based on their cover. So whatever we believe we create a story about.

We love being alive, so we think, so we project that into the next world, if we believe in a next world not everybody does. And we create stories around that. And it is natural to do so. And we create myths and those myths can help us to go deeper and deeper and deeper.   

But my experience is when you really begin to go deep, which I think all of us do.  What we experience after you go through all of the layers of emotional experiences what you experience is love, is pure love.  And everything is based on that seed.  But then we have created stories about love. And we don’t know what love is when we talk about it.  

What To Do: ” I hope we can is dive deeper than the cause and effect relationship of love and death.  Otherwise and this sounds like a threat and it is, other wise we don’t understand life. Life becomes too much of a mystery, we are too confused,  we have no center point.

Love: That beautiful poem of Inayat Khan, “Is love pleasure, is love merriment, No, love is willing surrender of the possessor of ones own heart.” That is what love is. So then the question becomes, ”Who possess our heart?”  And we will take a look at that later. For now lets stick with, “Why do we fear death?”

Absolute Disillusionment: ” What is the end of the process of death? At the end is absolute dissolution. In other words we are a body, we are a personality, we are a thought structure, we are an emotional structure, and we have hopes, we have positive intentions, we have will, we have desire, all of that is real then after we leave this body, assuming we still have form, we still have all of those things, except we don’t have the body, the physical body, And we go through worlds, or layers of consciousness, and ultimately we discard everything and immerse into the infinite ocean, I am not going to say the infinite ocean of bliss because there is no experiencer, and that is the end of the story. We become once again part of God. “

And you know I lived with that story for about forty years and I was totally at peace with that. It really answered a lot of questions. So then I began wondering, “Well that story is kind of beautiful. It is kind of complete. It is circular.  It is not necessarily linear.

So Why are we still afraid of Death? 

The Answer I Found This Morning:  “I stayed with that question and I never quite got to the depth of the answer until this morning, no really, Before I came here, you know I get up early, and I thought, I still don’t get this fear of death.  And I so I did what I do habitually when I have a question that doesn’t get answered, even inwardly. I opened up the teachings, these talks that Inayat Khan gave and I opened it up and he said something that even though I have read this three hundred times,  I never saw before.

He said, “We go though all of this and become nothing, but then what we are ctually experiencing is greater than nothing.  Is beyond nothing.  And what is beyond nothing. It is so great., he couldn’t describe it.  That was all he could say. But it is so great, so cosmically profound that everything is validated, everything is worth it, I know that sounds like commerce, but it was something I had never thought of, that is why I said it is all based on love.

Beyond Nothing: “And we think what do you mean beyond nothing. Don’t forget we are not speaking linearly, time is something that gets discarded very early in this process. So who is there to experience ‘Beyond Nothing’, it is not you. It is not me because we’r gone in the process.  And is it God.  But that is just another story and the answer is not experienceable with our own story, with our own logic,  with our own way of reasoning, of experiencing, of thinking.  This is really a challenge. A great challenge.”

Two Gods / Two Us’s: “We understand in essence there are two Gods. There is God the Abstract. And there is God the Finite.  And we have the potential even though we don’t often do it. We have the potential to  go back and forth in those two worlds, and ultimately to live in both, simultaneously. And we can draw ourself into the finite when necessary. And draw ourselves out of the finite when necessary so to speak. Maybe necessary is the wrong word. But we have that ability. We call it going into the Abstract Meditation, or Prayer; And again it is just label stories we ascribe to the nonexistent us.  And then go back to dealing with the existent us – – – That is us,  with our thinking, our personality, our things, our awareness and there are these two us and there are these two Gods.

We have the abstract god which is in a sense is the fruit of the non- abstract god.  And the fruit of the Abstract God is the emergence of the non-abstract God.   And we live in this duality but we live in it unconsciously. “

Another option. “We can live in this duality, more consciously at first. Meaning we develop the ability to withdraw from the finite, this is the spiritual path, whatever path it doesn’t matter,  We develop the ability to withdraw from the finite to the Abstract. And then leave the Abstract and come back into the Finite. And we go back and forth between the two.


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Our Fear of Death

So back to the fear because the fear is important. What do we really lose? What stories have we created to overcome the fears of what we really lose. Well here is a good story, ‘When I die I am going to see all of my relatives who have died before me.
I have to tell you before I continue, ‘I am not doing the junior high school talks anymore. I really mean it. We are at university level now. So what is the point of going back there. So lets look at some our beliefs.  So what would be your imagination of what it would be like to see your relative or friends, especially those to which you were very close.  What would your imagination now assume that meeting would be like.

What do you Feel – Think about that scenario?

Variety of Responses Including
As I feel them now they are already here.
Then you  are already there